Friday, June 1, 2007
Journamalism: The Giguere Rumors Revisited.
First a Detroit paper suggested that the Wings should go after Giguere, then the LA Times own Helene Elliot raised FUD about Giguere's departure.
[Please pay attention to this part:]
This is not about predictions. Maybe he will leave, but the grounds given are always salary cap issues. But the Ducks don't have salary cap issues.
And I quote "Admire him for the fine goalie and even finer person that he is because in the new salary-capped NHL, economics may dictate that these will be his final days with the team he helped transform from a movie-inspired marketing ploy into a playoff power."
The Ducks have approximately $27M committed for next season, leaving them with over $20M to sign approximately 20 players, almost all of whom currently make near the league minimum. Assume gigantic raises for some of the Ducks' emerging stars. Penner gets $1.5M, Moen gets $1M. That leaves on Teemu Selanne and Giguere who would be missed. Pay Giguere the $7M he's worth, and bring Teemu back at $6M as well. Give the remaining spare parts a 10% raise, or swap them out for new ones, and assume Bobby Ryan ($850k) is going to replace one of them.
That highball scenario still only about $21M of additional salary, which is under the league's theoretical cap of $49M next year.
Plus, c'mon. They love Teemu in Anaheim, but if it's between Giguere, who might win the Conn Smythe AGAIN, and Selanne... Anyway, odds are good that Teemu will retire if the Ducks win the Cup. That completely resolves the scenario.
C'mon. Do some research. Do some thinking.
If Giguere wants to leave, print that, or even an innuendo or a rumor about that. Say that his fight with Carlyle over not starting game 1 in round 1 is fueling speculation he wants out.
But don't make shit up about the salary cap that's not real. And don't blithely suggest that Ilya Bryzgalov is out of the doghouse in Anaheim. He stuck his foot in his mouth last summer in the Russian papers, and both Carlyle and Giguere have shoved it up his ass this year.
UPDATE: Bob McKenzie says this is probably Teemu's swan song.
UPDATE 2: Please note that I have not said Giguere will stay or made any prognostications about the Ducks budget next year. With Selanne's retirement likely, this entire discussion is moot. Giguere will stay if he wants, leave if he doesn't.
[Please pay attention to this part:]
This is not about predictions. Maybe he will leave, but the grounds given are always salary cap issues. But the Ducks don't have salary cap issues.
And I quote "Admire him for the fine goalie and even finer person that he is because in the new salary-capped NHL, economics may dictate that these will be his final days with the team he helped transform from a movie-inspired marketing ploy into a playoff power."
The Ducks have approximately $27M committed for next season, leaving them with over $20M to sign approximately 20 players, almost all of whom currently make near the league minimum. Assume gigantic raises for some of the Ducks' emerging stars. Penner gets $1.5M, Moen gets $1M. That leaves on Teemu Selanne and Giguere who would be missed. Pay Giguere the $7M he's worth, and bring Teemu back at $6M as well. Give the remaining spare parts a 10% raise, or swap them out for new ones, and assume Bobby Ryan ($850k) is going to replace one of them.
That highball scenario still only about $21M of additional salary, which is under the league's theoretical cap of $49M next year.
Plus, c'mon. They love Teemu in Anaheim, but if it's between Giguere, who might win the Conn Smythe AGAIN, and Selanne... Anyway, odds are good that Teemu will retire if the Ducks win the Cup. That completely resolves the scenario.
C'mon. Do some research. Do some thinking.
If Giguere wants to leave, print that, or even an innuendo or a rumor about that. Say that his fight with Carlyle over not starting game 1 in round 1 is fueling speculation he wants out.
But don't make shit up about the salary cap that's not real. And don't blithely suggest that Ilya Bryzgalov is out of the doghouse in Anaheim. He stuck his foot in his mouth last summer in the Russian papers, and both Carlyle and Giguere have shoved it up his ass this year.
UPDATE: Bob McKenzie says this is probably Teemu's swan song.
UPDATE 2: Please note that I have not said Giguere will stay or made any prognostications about the Ducks budget next year. With Selanne's retirement likely, this entire discussion is moot. Giguere will stay if he wants, leave if he doesn't.
// posted by Rick @ 3:25 PM 
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C'mon. Do some research. Do some thinking.
I might challenge you the same.
a) The Ducks have not, nor are they about to spend to the cap. So subtracting from $49 M isn't the correct approach for this team. I suspect we are looking more in the $42-$44 M range. You can gloat later if I'm wrong on this.
b) The Bryzgalov quote from last postseason has pretty much been a dead issue. I'm not sure why you think this is a bigger deal than any of the parties seem to think it is.
c) Giguere not starting G1 through G4 is not an issue either, especially for Giguere. If anything, I suspect he's grateful for the opportunity to take time to deal with his child's issues. If there's a fight with Carlyle, this is the first I've heard of it.
d) There looks to be a dearth of quality UFA goaltenders this coming offseason, and it is likely that one GM will make a substantial offer to Giguere, one that the Ducks won't match for their own budgetary reasons. Maybe Giguere feels generous and maybe he doesn't, but I heavily doubt his highest offer will be coming from Anaheim, especially if he wins the Smythe.
As such, I don't really know what else to say. The LAT article I think was appropriate--these very well may be Giguere's last days in an Anaheim uniform, and we should appreciate it while it lasts.
You seem really intent on knocking it, but frankly I see more flaws in your logic than I see in the article itself.
I might challenge you the same.
a) The Ducks have not, nor are they about to spend to the cap. So subtracting from $49 M isn't the correct approach for this team. I suspect we are looking more in the $42-$44 M range. You can gloat later if I'm wrong on this.
b) The Bryzgalov quote from last postseason has pretty much been a dead issue. I'm not sure why you think this is a bigger deal than any of the parties seem to think it is.
c) Giguere not starting G1 through G4 is not an issue either, especially for Giguere. If anything, I suspect he's grateful for the opportunity to take time to deal with his child's issues. If there's a fight with Carlyle, this is the first I've heard of it.
d) There looks to be a dearth of quality UFA goaltenders this coming offseason, and it is likely that one GM will make a substantial offer to Giguere, one that the Ducks won't match for their own budgetary reasons. Maybe Giguere feels generous and maybe he doesn't, but I heavily doubt his highest offer will be coming from Anaheim, especially if he wins the Smythe.
As such, I don't really know what else to say. The LAT article I think was appropriate--these very well may be Giguere's last days in an Anaheim uniform, and we should appreciate it while it lasts.
You seem really intent on knocking it, but frankly I see more flaws in your logic than I see in the article itself.
Please read the post over.
I'm not saying Giguere will return. I'm saying that there are not CAP problems.
You said he might get a better offer, or that there would be BUDGETARY restrictions.
The two are not the same. Plus, all of this is utterly stupid if Selanne retires, which is likely.
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I'm not saying Giguere will return. I'm saying that there are not CAP problems.
You said he might get a better offer, or that there would be BUDGETARY restrictions.
The two are not the same. Plus, all of this is utterly stupid if Selanne retires, which is likely.
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